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Florida Wants Kids to Know More About Government

Passing an end-of-year civics exam will become mandatory for middle school students soon. What do you think about the idea?

With a large number of Americans failing to make the grade when it comes to general knowledge about the federal government, Florida education officials are stepping up to the plate to remedy the situation.

Beginning next school year, the state intends to make passing an end-of-year civics exam a critical part of the grading process in middle school. Students already take civics classes in the seventh grade, but starting in the 2013-14 school year, they’ll have to pass the exam to be promoted, according to the Tampa Bay Times. The test will count as 30 percent of a student’s civics grade.

Florida made at least one semester of civics mandatory in 2010.

Both moves have come on the heels of national surveys that showed a high percentage of American citizens couldn’t name the three branches of government, a Supreme Court justice or even basic information about the Constitution. In 2010, for example, Newsweek gave 1,000 Americans the U.S. citizenship test. A total of 38 percent failed.

Other statistics quoted by the Times are more alarming. Read the full article for details.

How important do you think civics classes are? Should the state make passing mandatory for promotion? Let us know your thoughts in the comments section.

Linda Craig July 9, 2012 at 11:07 am
Personally it's an excellent idea. I taught a basic, almost two weeks lng Junior Achievement course in my daughter's 7th grade Civics class last year. Forget about the government... only two out of about 40 kids knew that a debit card was NOT a credit card... oh my!
Jay Rhodes July 9, 2012 at 11:36 am
Bring back the ninth grade Civics Class. How retro is that? I still fondly remember Mr. North's Civics Class at the old Clearwater Junior High (1962)
Sara Kambic July 9, 2012 at 12:24 pm
I had to pass it in 8th grade and I managed to do it. On the 4th, my family decided to take an internet quiz on the government. It consisted of 80 question on the US Government. There were a lot of question I didn't know the answers to, but for many I was surprised I still did and can thank that class. Everyone should be required to take it and pass. If not in 8th grade, we should be required to pass it to vote. You have to pass it to become a US citizen too, right? It's hardly fair that we ask someone one wants to be a citizen to partake in something our natural born citizens aren't required to do.
Rocky Contreras July 9, 2012 at 12:29 pm
I agree wholeheartedly with an increased emphasis on civics but I don't think that making the passing of an EOC Civics course a requirement for promotion is necessary. Why not simply make civics a regular course each year of middle school and/or high school? Or at least put it on every student's schedule for multiple years - not just 7th grade.
It seems we continue to bounce from one extreme to the other. We went from de-emphasizing everything that isn't on the FCAT to now making a single end-of-year test grounds for being held back? Do we really need another "all or nothing" scenario to put more stress on our students? If this knowledge is so important, let's just make it a regular class each year. Even if a 7th grader passes this test do we really think they will hold on to this knowledge through their adult lives based on one school year's class?
Trish Barnard July 9, 2012 at 12:38 pm
I can't say it any better than Rocky just did!! I second his response.
Howard July 9, 2012 at 12:53 pm
I don't understand the value of holding someone back for failing the test. What happens? The child has to retake the entire year so he or she can eventually graduate at 19 or 20?
Civics once was as important as reading, writing and arithmetic. The three core subjects prepared a student to compete in society. Civics prepared the student to participate in operating the society. No longer. What would be taught and tested? "how many branches of government are there?" What is "ex post facto?" How about, "in a brief essay discuss how government is a cooperative exercise in rule making for the benefit of all." Before starting the course, require all candidates for office to take the test as a condition of qualifying. Many - if not most - of our elected "leaders" have no real understanding of the separation of powers or the reason behind having both a senate and a house of representatives. Most important they don't understand that a democracy operates through compromise. How in the world can we possibly expect students to gain any valuable understanding of government when our state and federal governments are paralyzed by incivility and a determination that government is a "battle" between factions and the representative is sent to congress to "fight" for his constituents? Civics is an important course but is irrelevant in a society in which government is so dysfunctional that it cannot get beyond hot button nonsense in order to regulate a civilized society.
Sherri Lonon (Editor) July 9, 2012 at 01:23 pm
Rocky, I like the way you think! As a parent, I've tried to explain the basics of government and the Constitution to my children and have been disheartened that they weren't also learning these topics in school (at the elementary level). I'm happy to see one serious course in the mix in middle school, but you're right: it's not enough.
Ann Diller July 9, 2012 at 01:31 pm
I use to laugh at the Jay Leno Show when they would quiz college students on our gov. Then it dawned on me that these kids were soon to be voters. Then it was not so funny any more. Yes it should be reading, writing, math and civics 1-12. Maybe we could replace Dick and Jane stories to real American stories.
Maryellen Farinas July 9, 2012 at 02:15 pm
What happened to the Civics requirement as a course? Another standardized test is NOT necessary, more history (American and World), geography (again American and World) and Civics is necessary. We are an insular society, happy in our insular limited ways, but we need to be secure in our history and knowledge of our government and society before we can become knowledgeable in how the rest of the world works and looks. Social Studies courses need to be required every year, starting in elementary school through high school. But before that can happen we need teachers who know their subject matter and can teach their students without bias. It is a sad state of affairs when students complain that they cannot express their opinions in class unless they agree with the teacher. Whether liberal or conservative students deserve the right to express their ideas in the classroom and learn to respect others' opinions as well. We can't expect our politicians to work "both sides of the aisle" until we teach our children to debate an issue and respect the opinion of others, starting with home and school.
Tom Kulaga July 9, 2012 at 02:22 pm
Excellent post. I would much prefer the students AND parents learn the benefits of college Associates Degrees whether it be an AA or an AS and how many Certificate Programs (in our case SPC offers) the local colleges and other institutions offer that will get our students good paying local jobs quickly upon graduation. There is no need in brainwashing students into thinking a four degree is necessary when the fact is they are useless today. AA, AS, Certificates in the right fields of study, and Masters are the only way to go.
Fisher Honey Bees July 9, 2012 at 02:26 pm
Ann...It is a very sad thing to see the answers that are given. If government run schools teach the way it's supposed to be working then it creates some accountability on their part. Do they really want that? They have worked long and hard to get various facts removed from being taught in schools, and ones that are are extremely skewed. Yes, it needs to be taught but who makes the decision on what is or isn't taught. I have friends that are teachers in various areas and they have been told NOT to teach anything pre civil war. What about why our great country was founded? "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ....well you cannot "remember" it if you haven't been taught.
Tom Kulaga July 9, 2012 at 02:32 pm
Seventh grade children are just beginning to baby sit. I would have thought "debit cards vs credit cards" would be more appropriate for a "Family Living or Economics course". I don't see how debit cards fit a government Civics course but who am I to judge as a father of three grandchildren and counting.
Tom Kulaga July 9, 2012 at 02:55 pm
With all due respect, are you kidding me? I see the same TV commercials full of misleading information repeated over and over again within a half hour (supposed) news program and you want your grade school aged child to read between the lines and determine what is the .......... well I better leave it at that.
I have to tell all you parents that the better thing to do is to get your children focused on some field of study that will take a certificate of study or two year degree from a local college or institution. I really recommend checking out Seminole State College's website only because it is so clear in what it says and it says over 90% of its students find jobs upon graduation.
Bob Burdewick July 9, 2012 at 03:28 pm
A civics class is definately one of the most important classes a youngster will have during his educational school years. Glad to see it being presented and made an important part of their education. P.S. It was mandatory in all L.I. schools when I was growing up. Took mine in the H.S. Freshman year (1947).
Tom Kulaga July 9, 2012 at 03:50 pm
A couple years later than these people propose. Do you think you matured somewhat?
Lynda July 9, 2012 at 04:11 pm
If the Texas experience in deciding the content of social studies textbooks is any guide, agreeing on the content of any civic's course in Florida will be a highly political decision-making process. It will all depend on who is given the responsibility to create the course content. Chances are it will be appointees of the current governor (Texas appointed a dentist with very controversial ideas!), not people with any expertise.
Nancy MacDonald July 9, 2012 at 04:56 pm
very much needed; with better information we can participate when needed as citizens to get the type of government we want. knowing the "ropes" and the ways to get things done and why there are certain boundaries that are necessary when dealing with agencies, trying to get something new going or being able to stop something that's happening within legal and social constraints is very valuable. Will make for a better group of citizens. Nancy
Elizabeth July 9, 2012 at 05:03 pm
A civics/government class is a great idea...........however, I have my concerns. Will it be taught in a bipartisan way? Not too long ago the Koch brothers wanted to invest in a local university.........it was mentioned that the Koch brothers (Republicans) would choose the teaching material & teachers to THEIR liking.
That is scary. Now that the Florida Education officials are promoting Civics Classes, I have to wonder. If not done honorably, this would be a great way for our educational system to indoctrinate young minds towards a desirable goal.
Allen May July 9, 2012 at 05:19 pm
I can just see Gov. Scott teaching a civics class on his "work" day. He would be a great example of how the government works.
Valerie Crowe July 9, 2012 at 06:37 pm
I think it's a good idea to have mandatory Civics taught, but the requirement to 'pass' could be mandatory to graduate from high school, not 7th and 8th graders. This system works well in the DoD high schools in Europe. Now if we want to include geography, that's a whole different topic.
Riley July 9, 2012 at 06:53 pm
Howard's point is on point.
rick barasso July 9, 2012 at 07:44 pm
Great idea for the kids to learn about our government. Better idea to have anyone interested in voting to learn the same. You know who else could use it, Rick Scott. If you thought he was anxious to avoid his mandated drug test, it would be interesting to see how fast he'd run from a test on ethics in Government...
Divorce Attorney Sharon Johnson July 9, 2012 at 08:00 pm
Right on, Jay!
Shirley Detraz July 9, 2012 at 10:48 pm
In think it is a great idea. In school is where I got all of that information.
christina hrvatin July 10, 2012 at 01:29 pm
I don't recall having ever taken a "Civics" course in school; however, I did take U.S Government and Geography. I was unaware these courses were no longer in the mainstream curriculum? I attended school in P.A. and then my last year in F.L. The content between the two was miles apart...Florida schools are scary.
Michael D. July 10, 2012 at 02:54 pm
When I graduated in 1996 it was manatory for any Florida High School Senior to have taken a U.S. Government, Economics, and at least 2 History Classes (1 U.S. History) in High School to recieve a diploma. There were a few that walked across the stage receiving certificates instead of diplomas because they didn't receive a passing grade in U.S. Government. Also it was mandatory to take at least 2 civics courses while working on my AA, before moving to upper division in College. Civics is a nesscary class especially to be able to fully understand how our government is suposed to operate.
Jery Elliott July 24, 2012 at 05:10 pm
I am taking this comment in the sarcastic tone in which I hope it is written.
Jery Elliott July 24, 2012 at 05:11 pm
How interesting that NONE of our local candidates whom I know read the Patch have not chimed in on this. I wonder what sort of Civics class(es) Burgin and Belcher and all the others have taken in their lifetime.
Stephen Buczinski January 26, 2013 at 10:18 pm
Jay, Do you remember the film that Mr. North made of "Uncle Tom's Cabin" with the classes he taught that year? It was shot along a creek north of Dunedin, as I recall. I don't recall what part I played, but it all brings back fond memories. Stephen Buczinski

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