Do not waste a vote, vote out Obama, we need a new direction in this country

No vote, you must be kidding! The Marxist must be defeated by Romney. Obama had his shot and he missed his own targets.

Yes he will !

Anyone, anything is better than the tyrant obama

Absolutely--Romney as president would be at least as bad as another George W. Bush. We must oppose Romney and elect Obama again.

Anthony,
yes Bush did innvigorate business, which opening up an already bad credit legislation. Businesses borrowing money that wasn't there and they became bad loans. So yes in he did grow business on a bad foundation, which was part of the straw on the camels back for the crash of 2008. On your second point, yes, Romney has said at multiple stops he would like to close Planned Parenthood. He has been recorded as saying it, but it was mostly during his run to be the Republican candidate.

Yes, yes, yes!!! There are people of reason out there, thank goodness!!!

No, it won't. Florida isn't that important this time. Check out Ohio.

Another four years of Obama . . . Yes, yes yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes.

Joe C., absolutely.

Hey Joe, when are you going to get the facts straight??
First of all President Bush is a private citizen now, in a rare broadcast both Bush Sr. & Bush Jr didn't want to be at the RNC convention due to Bush Sr. not able to travel due to deteriorating health issues & being a remarkable family they are very close together to spend time during illness, here's the video of that broadcast which was shown at RNC http://republicanredefined.com/2012/08/30/rnc-2012-president-bush-41-and-43-make-a-video-appearance/
Also here's an important interview with Bush Jr. in 2010 owning up to his mistakes http://www.therightscoop.com/full-interview-george-w-bush-with-matt-lauer/

Joe C.,
The Bushes have moved their life on outside of politics. It was by their choice not to attend.

It's all about Ohio now, and it doesn't matter who wins Florida. We aren't this important this time. Put your brain cap on.

Cisco, Why are you not mentioning who is projected to be the winner of the Electoral College which will actually choose the next President of the United States? Today's Associated Press projections for the presidential election state that Pres. Obama will most likely win with at least 271 electoral votes from 21 states, including Ohio, Wisconsin and Iowa, and the District of Columbia. Romney seems on track to win only 206 electoral votes from 23 states. The electoral vote projections show that Pres. Obama is the favorite to become the next President of the United States, not Mitt Romney.

Joe C., you've made an excellent point. Besides which, one of Joe Biden's sons served in the military. To Cisco and Anti-Liberal: when are YOU going to get the facts straight?

Ah yes, the same intelligent people who voted Gov Scott into office based on his promises to bring jobs to Florida, are now buying the false promises of another GOP businessman. Guess you can fool Floridians more than once. Fortunately the Massachusetts voters who know Gov.(one term) Romney will vote for President Obama. Fortunately the voters in Ohio aren't likely to believe the latest Romney fiction about auto jobs. However, there is definitely a reason for calling it Flori-duh.

Anti-Liberal, where are you going to move, exactly? Please be specific.

Anti-Liberal, Since you intend to move far away if Obama wins because you dislike having your government run by "liberals", I suggest that you should consider moving to a country Iran or Saudi Arabia. If you lived there, you wouldn't have to worry at all about "liberals" in the government arguing for equal rights for women, equal pay for women, reproductive rights for women, women's freedom from having to wear restrictive clothing, equal rights in court cases involving divorce or inheritance, or even the separation of church and state. If you can't stand living in the U.S. for four more years with "liberals" running the government, remember there are many countries in the Middle East and elsewhere where you won't find any "liberals" there to bother you.

You are all pitiful, I feel sorry for you, there so many places in the world other than the middle east but of course you would see me fit in a place like that, keep your rants coming, it just confirms your small one sided minds unlike you I am prepared to do what's necessary, as for you keep drinking that Koolaid, you'll find out eventually when you lose your freedom :)

Also if Obama gets elected, Iran will deploy the nuclear bomb, here's proof of that fact http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx-8BJdztbE&feature=related

You won't need to wait for the Iran Nuclear bomb, A-L, Haven't you heard that the Mayan calendar will end on Dec. 21, 2012 along with all life on this planet? That should solve all the problems you are expecting! So no worries.

Mayan curse is hype made up by hollywood film makers to promote another stupid movie but Iran threat is real whether you accept it or not :)

Remember Nostradamus prediction which was another hype, take it easy on the Koolaid it is clouding your judgement :)

Not so good at getting the joke, are you, A-L? Mayan Calendar hype = Iran nuclear weapon hype. I agree with President Obama that a real threat is in Pakistan which currently has nuclear weapons -- and an unstable government. Try reading some foreign policy journals and turn off AM radio; you will be better informed. Although probably more frightened about voting for Gov Romney who has very little interest in foreign policy other than to find places to put his money.

How to explain facts to a fool who overdosed on Koolaid;
If you are able to read, here's facts on how Obama signing the Enhanced Partnership with Pakistan Act, otherwise known as the ‘Kerry-Lugar-Berman Bill,’ a five-year, $7.5 billion aid package to Pakistan is assured, along with a promise of more to come. ‘It includes language proposing a subsequent tranche of $7.5 billion of aid for 2015 to 2019. There is yet more money for Pakistan in the 2010 defense budget. The Kerry-Lugar-Berman aid comes on top of the more than $15 billion the United States has given Pakistan since 2001, of which more than $10 billion has been military aid.
Lynda you can read the rest in this link http://trendsupdates.com/the-united-states-%E2%80%9Cenhanced-partnership-with-pakistan-act%E2%80%9D-massive-aid-tough-love-tall-order/
Now Lynda with these facts why would Pakistan risk losing all the payout by harming the US & why would Obama give all that aid to them if he doubted they would use nuclear weapons so use logic Lynda if you have any before making foolish assumptions :)

As for your assuming I listen to radio, you are way off base, I don't get my facts from the radio, I prefer going into foreign websites & translate to English, you can do the same if you so choose to do, if you want true facts about the middle east go to the source, don't rely on the US media...

I truly believe you are right, we need Romney, history will show how damaging the current White House has been!
Lets keep family values & make our nation great despite the damage of a failed policy caused by an inexperienced leader!
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all!
God Bless The USA!

Anti-Liberal,
You said for a saying that wasn't in the pledge of allegence until 1854 "one nation under god". It was put there to fight communism. So what you are saying that our Fore Fathers that built this country who were not tradition Christian, and in most cases were not Christian at all were about Family Values? They created a country that shouldn't be based on any religiion or set of forced values.

(1) President Obama will win Minnesota. (2) My guess is your "liberal friends" are tired of discussing the issue with you and just being polite. I know people like you too; it is easier to change the subject than to change minds with facts.
(3) Many of the worst of the TP zealots from 2010 will be absent from the new Congress: West, Walsh, Craavck, etc are not doing well this year after voters got a whiff of their real agendas and skills. Gov Romney may well win Florida because not enough people learned their lesson with the election of Gov Scott. Ohio will stay with President Obama; people are smarter there (or more interested in actual jobs than pretending to be part of the 1%)

Michael D. I love your well-reasoned, factual comments. You are one of my heroes for your calm persistence and unending patience with the fact-challenged. Just one correction of a typo, however. The language of the Pledge was changed in 1954 during the Red Scare era, not 1854.

Anti-Liberal...............I know many believe the President has Dictatorial powers.........but that Liberal President isn't the only one in DC causing chaos. Who do you think passes the legislation Obama signs.......only the D's? Nope, the R's are right there with them.

It's the entire system causing problems for the rest of us.........but you want to believe we swing back over to the other side for some different "Change."

I hear Romney saying jobs, jobs, jobs. How about freedom!, FREEdom!!, FREEDOM!!

FYI: You are pledging allegiance to a cloth that when the red, white and blue is seen coming over a hill, the foreigners run with horror. Rest assured, a Romney administration will definitely lead to more "liberating."

God, I love having money stolen from me to kill innocent men, woman and children in foreign lands......................cause these colors don't run!! USA! USA! USA!

Michael, I have respect for your views, yes I do know about the changes that was made to the pledge in 1954 by President Eisenhover, now this is 2012 yesterday when I posted the pledge it was from the heart, I am a firm believer in God always have, always will, my belief is not up for debate so Michael I hope you have respect for my views for I will always say the Pledge of Allegiance the way I wrote it above!

Anti-Liberal,
And no one should take away in your belief in God. I don't think anyone has that right to trade your belief. I have many friends that are Christians, Hindi, Buddhist, and all their believes are treasures. I love getting in discussions and learning about them. I believe we were built as a nation of outcasts who grew into this melting pot of culture. It takes all the cultures and religions to make us the great nation we are. So, do not think for any moment I wouldn't say someone should change their firmly held theological believes.

Thank you Michael :)
Here's a site talking about the history of the Pledge of Allegiance; http://www.ushistory.org/documents/pledge.htm

Anti-Liberal,
The fact we have a choice that doesn't matter, I don't believe anyone is saying that. For me it is about correct information, on either side. I have corrected those on either side, with the easily found facts. If Romney wins he will have two years of a Congress of the same party. I will expect the same results or better than the people who expected of Obama with the 4 months he had a majority in Congress. I personally don't think either man is good for America, but that is my opinion. Your opinion is that Romney is better, which is fine. I just prefer that it be about the facts and whole truths. Not half-truths and then opinions sold as truths.

Michael I disagree with you on this statement "I don't believe anyone is saying that"
obama2012yeah
12:19 am on Tuesday, October 23, 2012
romney is a straight up idiot, atleast obama knows what hes talking about obama has my vote and if he doesnt have yours, then you are lost.
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vera charles
9:34 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012
Boy, Cup of "Light" should be renamed Cup of Manure.
Obama swore his oath of office on the Christian Bible, not the Koran, and not Alice in Wonderland either.
You've been going to too many tea parties by the Mad Hatter, unless, of course, that you actually knew that you were passing along a total lie, and simply wanted to murky up the waters even further so that you could finally. In that case (which I hope isn't true) you would be a total liar, and not merely ignorant.
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rick barasso
1:05 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012
Just what I need. I assume a gun toting member of the paranoid party stalking me
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rick barasso
9:06 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012
What a racist! Yep, you're with the right team for your personality...
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Michael this is just a small part of the cut downs from liberals, there are tons more....

Yes, there is extremes on both sides. I took the gun toting one as a joke to something you had said in good nature, but the other other statements or just an ignorant as the ones that do it on the side. People are allowed their opinion, but as long as their is intelligent debate I have no issue. Unfortunitely both sides have ignorant morons.

More personal attacks from liberals;
Lynda
10:05 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012
At the risk of adding myself to the "legal action" Anti-Liberal contemplates, is anyone else seriously worried (as I am) about her mental stability? The posts last night just got more and more strange. I know a lot of this discussion is exchanging witty--at least in our opinion--remarks, but part of that means doing so with people equally "armed". I have enormous admiration for Joe C and Rick Brasso for their persistence in correcting misinformation and putting forth clear ideas as well as being clever while doing so. I really look forward to their posts. I must admit to just too much irritation at the misinformation and outright lies to reply to the constant purposeful inflammatory comments as well as they do. I just think Anti-liberal appears to be at actual risk right now. I don't know if Patch does interventions, but this is a troubling situation. No one should have or should put their mental well-being in danger for the sake of an on-line discussion.
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rick barasso
10:47 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012
Thank you Lynda. I do whole heartedly try to convey the truth, occasionally with a sense of humor. I believe your statements about AL are not without merit. Hopefully they will take a breath, and appreciate that others have an opinion too. And that's some of those opinions are actually based on facts.

Yes Michael there are extremes on both sides however most of these personal attacks not all was directed at me, I didn't deserve it, I am a decent & honest citizen, at the risk of certain people gloating, I have feelings & I have cried especially at being called a racist & paranoid schizo, I am sure you will agree that it is cruel & uncalled for!

when it comes to name calling it is never called for. The labeling on both sides is pretty ridiculous.

Hey Michael, you remember the post on Laundry Mat in Dunedin, I signed up with Patch during that post, when I read about the sign, I felt the wording was crude, my view is 2 wrongs don't make a right, foul language has no place in any conversation & that goes for all sides!

Anti-liberal,
Help me out to understand something..why will Republican policies work for Romney if they did not work for Bush?

that won't change until another entity gains enough money to get into the game. Which we have yet to see.

Gary Johnson garners 5% of the national vote and the Libertarian party will have more funds than ever.......of course it will somewhat force them to violate the principles they espouse.

I want Revolutionary change.......not this scratch the surface mumbo jumbo. Deal with the Federal Reserve, Foreign Policy, Entitlements, Civil Rights. Real changes isn't being offered by any of these puppets.

You saw what happened when a 3rd person did have enough money......they changed the way candidates are allowed into the debates. Had Perot not done so well, Johnson would be in the debates right now, but they changed the rules...........sorta the same way the RNC changed their rules to put a halt to grass root movements like Dr. Ron Pauls. FYI: under the new rules, Reagan wouldn't have been President. But hey, that's Freedom in America.
(there's rumors Perot and his family were threatened, hence his withdrawal).
If only the people listened to Perot...........just like people should be listening to Dr. Paul)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkgx1C_S6ls

The 5% is what I was referring to. There needs to be multiple voices to actually represent the social culture in this country. Currently we have two sides of the same coin. Seperated by minor differences.

There are those "tolerant" people on both sides Bob. Romney is just as much of a "snake-oil" salesmen. Both candidates will say what their focus groups tell them to in order to get elected.

Bob,
I think this statement you made is where I have the problem "This is what has been getting people elected". Very valid point, the candidate who has spent the most money campaign has won the last 80 years at least. What does that say about our voting public that we are easily swayed by candidates who will change their tune on a dime. Because of their focus groups. Why do we only hear two voices as well? Are we to truly believe that only 2 men represent what 312.8 Million People? No other voices are out there?

Bob,
Check my history, I have been saying it for months. Even on the debate boards asking why another voice isn't being heard. As I have said multiple times over the last few months, I don't find either of these two candidates speaking for me.