No kidding ! We could get free phones, food stamps, free medical, be freeloaders
like the other 50 % of America

Let's pray Romney wins

uh..yeah...I see your anology with Star Wars working...and can also see how Biden somewhat resembles Mel Brooks' Yoda and how the Dems are guided by The Swartz.

As well we can see who the real Obama voters are.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UrOmhH2PeI

In your mind, it sounds like you are already there. If we are not around in 2076, don't count on Beijing being the one who took our place. If we fail to make it to our tri-centennial (I hope you spelled that right because I spelled it the same way) then I think more that likely there won't be much of anywhere good to live anymore. Hang on to your purple berries....they'll probably keep us both alive...as we watch the bomber jet planes turning into butterflies above our nation...

CJ - great "Woodstock" reference. I'm with Jack - we're screwed if this keeps up.

Sara...I knew at least one person here would also be old as dirt...I can take a bath and dust still flys off of me when I walk ;)

...and also in Biden's words!

Joe C. Although most polls agree Obama won the debate, it was by the thinest of margins. I found them both spewing half truths and some lies. I do not think anyone is the winner when we have allowed these two people to represent us.

''What polls'' are you talking about, Paul? The Democrat ones? Duh. This debate was barely 12 hours ago. Let's wait a few days before anyone starts bragging about who is ahead in ''polls'' on this debate. I have a feeling that on ''this'' one...the ''general opinion'' is going to end up being that it was close to a tie, at best. The Dems needed to do better than that.

This must be the debate you're speaking about!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UrOmhH2PeI

Actually, not

That is a good summary of how it is, Paul. If indeed the Dems have the mysterioulsy defined ''47%'', then let's say the GOP has a similar 47%. That leaves 6% as a loose definition of what the ''undecided vote'' is. Considering how close the election has been gearing up to be, it has never required ''much'' of a shift in the undecided vote to determine who might win. Even then, it only matters in a very few swing states. I think it is widely agreed the two most significant are Ohio and Florida. I've read that 7% figure you mentioned for Florida, but I'd be relunctant to trust it for now. Maybe in a few days we will have a better idea of how solid that estimate is. Even if Romeny wins, the American public is going to have the same expectations they had with Obama...and if he does not do anything outstanding, then I say ''one and done'' for him also. We need a President that can defeat gridlock and get things done despite it. Tough job for anyone to do, I think. I did not vote for Obama, but after he won I had hoped he would conquer gridlock. He failed. ''One and done'' needs to be the fate of any President if their first 4 years are not ''very'' sucessful. We ''all'', Dems and GOP, have to raise the bar on what we expect of who wins. It will be interesting to see if any lurking ''secret weapons'' are out there that Obama or Romney have to pull out in the next couple weeks. The bad thing is that true progress seems futher than 4 years away, but we still must demand it.

CJ, the problem is that an experienced administrator is someone that sits down and moderates a consensus; this is a skill Obama lacks. I watched as Clinton and Reagan successfully and repeatedly reached across the isles and united people with compromise, yet another skill I see lacking in this current president. I think one of the largest problems Obama has is that he lacks the understanding of the basics of law passing in this country. The Congress handles the task of creating laws, not the president. I must admit I had high hopes for Both Clinton and Obama and in both cases I was let down for a plethora of reasons.

Many services formerly provided by actual government employees have been "privatized" and are provided by either "non-profit faith-based" organizations or private companies such as those who run prisons. This is particularly true in Florida. Many non-profits such as the Salvation Army receive both state and federal funds as well as donations from supporters. Planned Parenthood clinics are often located in rural areas or under-served urban areas where medical services are unavailable. For the health screenings unique to women (pap smears, breast cancer screenings, etc) federal funds help pay to provide low income women access to health care. Preventative health screenings will lower medical costs for everyone. And, no, Sparky, not all women have access to health care or birth control. Many women with serious health issues do not have access to life-saving drugs or to regular check-ups.

I dunno Lynda...since moving to Florida, my already fat body has gotten fatter and my son told me the other day if I keep it up I will need to get my breasts looked at by a doctor...does planned parenthood see men also?

Lynda, although what you say sounds on the surface as truth, under the viel is something different. for example, you mention that private companies that run prisons. Well the International Centre for Prison Studies (ICPS) at King's College London estimated 2,266,832 are in the prison system in the US, with private companies managing only 99,000 of those. So less than 5% of the total inmate population. The Salvation Army according to their report submitted to the IRS covering 2011 recieved less than 10% (384M) of it's budget from the United States and yet in return puts back into the community as jobs, shelter,training, education, child care, food, health care, etc over 3.4 billion in return. The final quote of Many Women with seriouos health issues do not have access to life saving drugs or to regular checkups, I would like to see those figures from a reputable source. Not saying there are not some, but the number would more than likely be relatively low to over all population of Woman who do have access.

Paul Ray, I was using the examples of the Salvation Army and companies which run prisons in response to sparky's comment that Planned Parenthood should not receive federal tax money. My point was that many non-profit and for profit groups receive federal money for services provided to citizens In many rural areas Planned Parenthood is the major supplier of health care to women. I am sorry that was confusing to you . While the number of Americans who have do not have health insurance (and must pay completely for any health services) varies from 30 to 50 million, surely it is obvious that sparky's comment "all women have access to health care and birth control" is false.

CJ, good for you to seek common ground on this tough issue. I believe the current "rules" in place (Roe v Wade) do limit legal abortion (except in cases where the life of the mother is at risk) to the fetus age of viability, usually 24 to 26 weeks. Science and medical care advances do wonders with pre-mature births (at a cost of $1 million+ per baby) so the viability age may get pushed earlier and the rules can change. The gruesome "partial birth" stories you hear are mostly a myth fostered by people who want to use the shock value. Sometimes a fetus has died in the womb or sometimes a fetus is so deformed it cannot live, for example: one whose organs or brain are outside its body. In those very rare cases, medical procedures may need to take place that are different from a standard birth or "C" section. If you study the statistics, late term abortion for a non-medical reason is both rare and not legal right now. You can see how that common ground has worked out!

Jim, you are living in a state of denial. Even some commentators on Fox News have stated that Pres. Obama won this debate. Only extreme Romney partisans believe otherwise. Pres. Obama had a weak first debate and Romney had a weak and lackluster debate last night. Let's wait and see what happens at the third and final debate. I believe that you will see the polls shift about 3 to 4 points towards Pres. Obama during the post debate polls.

you will be beating the same drum until November 7th.

Thank You!! Cisco. I live in CA and its unclear who is in the lead in FL. One day its Obama next Romney. I wonder if the lead Obama had was do to,his major campaign contributors owning large shares in the media??? I dont trust any poll at this time. Its getting ugly....

We see a surprise is coming to Romneyville, as the Florida swing status will be a positive for the people. We are not corparate beings , just humans with issues...:)

I think the jist of this all (if you have read all the comments above) is that truth is truely in the ears of the hearer. I heard lies from Obama and Biden (blatant and less so) as well as Romney and Ryan. If one thinks that Obama and Biden have any form of honor than I fear all is truely lost.

Paul Ray,
I would say you if you believe that Romney and Ryan have any form of honor the same could be said. All four are liars and will say what it takes to get into office. If you beleive any less you haven't been paying attention in the last 1.5 years of campaigning.

Michael D, my comment about honor was in reference to the above tier comment "The President HAS a great record of deeds & actions, with pitbull IRISH Joe Biden being a V.P. with honor" which I nearly burst into a belly laugh over.

Beth, GOOD JOB!! you researched ( TRUTH ) And I did check the links. And I didnt favour Romney eather. I voted for Obama in o8. And I have posted here before I live in Redding CA the unemployment rate is 12.5% And I just got laid off my job of five years. There are things about both Obama And Romney that I dont like.Obama has done GREAT things and yes he is pro women,but for now I have to look at the economy. I have a 10 year old son to support on my own. With just 26weeks of unemployment,its scary to think what 4 more years could bring with Obama. Romney didnt lie in the second debate,when he said government dont create jobs. Giving tax cuts to small and yes big corparations do.And its not all about big corporations.The town I live in is ALL small business.MIDDLE CLASS If you have time look up Redding Ca job growth Its been 0% for months I drive down the streets and see nothing but closed up shops.If I FELT for one second Obama would even focus a little more on the economy I would vote for him. What I wonder is if hes re elected he has to finish up Obamacare. It took him 18months to get it going.How much more time do we have and its not just my town your town its all of us in this together everyone is just one paycheck away from a layoff.. I have to focus on the big picture JOBS! I do appreciate the info it was very enlightening. THANK YOU!!

No Stephanie...Beth did not do a good job. These local Patch blogs are better severed and more enjoyable with actual comments by users...not simply a bunch of tainted, biased links. Beth has probably ''copy and pasted'' this same thing more than one place. This is ''agenda trash'' and in no way represents Romney's full views on these matters. All Beth has done is present some links with ''spins'' on them. Any claim that Obama is more for women than Romeny are nothing but simple campaign rubbish. Both these men are in truth probably equal in their views on many women issues...like most people are. The Romney postition does not want to ''get rid'' of virtually ''anything''...but he is stating up front that in order to fix the economy...new change...new rules...are going to be needed ''across the board'' on just about everything. Romney is not ''against'' planned parenthood...but he is against any ''fraud'' within in it. It would probably astonish many of us if we new the amount of tax money that goes to free birth control pills, abortions, etc to women who have the money to pay for them. This is ''fraud'' to collect entitlements if you do not legally qualify for them. This nation has forgot this type of fraud ''is a serious crime''...and those who do it are simply ''thiefs''. To seriously put a stop to fraudulent tax paid entitlement claims could single handedly eliminate our natianal debt. It's no wonder Obama is so popular. He is like a free ATM machine for tax fraud.

CJ, The Hyde amendment prohibits any federal tax money from being spent on abortions. In fact, women who serve in the military or women who are spouses of serving military are prohibited from using their health coverage or base medical facilities for abortions at all. No exceptions for their lives at risk either, although some local facilities might waffle to save lives. The GOP opposes Planned Parenthood receiving any federal funds, although 97% of its services are health care. I think you underestimate the zealotry of abortion opponents. If Gov Romney is elected, abortion will cease to be legal in the United States. And, CJ, many, many people believe that life begins with the first breath outside the womb. The "personhood" campaign will mean the end of infertile couples having the option for fertilization options. It will outlaw forms of birth control which are now legal. It will complicate laws involving inheritance. You seem to be a smart person, I continue to be astonished about what you do not know. What have you read that you think Gov. Romney's approach to abortion and contraception is "tighter rules. . . and making people pay for abortions. . . instead of using tax money." No one, absolutely no one, is allowed to use federal tax money for abortions now. That is not propaganda. That is a solid fact.

Hogwash, Lynda. there may indeed be changes coming related to abortions...but that is plain silly to believe they will be made illegal. I already explained why we will never go back to the day of abortions being illegal. I am not going to repeat them because it is terrible stuff to print more than once. The days of women having freedom to do abortions like they are using zit cream need to end, though. You wrote: ''You seem to be a smart person, I continue to be astonished about what you do not know''. You know what, Lynda...you deal out some stuff all the time that we need waist high rubber boots to get through...but ''what you think you know'' is what's atonishing. That is sometimes a very special high horse you set on. You see the world through rose colored glasess...and that is fine. I consider you harmless, because I know you are not hostile and your mean well...but certainly do not see you as a person to agree with. You could be my wife. I can be very sure you do not have the long and wordly experiences I do. They say you should never judge a person until you walk a mile in their shoes. You could walk around the world in mine and still only know what you know. Everywhere I have ever been, I get along with people and am considered a friend to turn to for advice. I know where I stand on ''what I know''...and I will always know more than you on a practical level. You need to change what you read. You are wasting yourself being a liberal. There's a better place for you.

yOh...and by the way...you need to brush up on the Hyde Amendment...you must of only read or know what you have heard someone else repeat...you are incorrect about it. there is no winning with you...but The Hyde goes back to the 70's....and teh late 50's, 60's, and 70's are my era...and I was very invloved with a lot of things politically and otherwise back then. Plus...I have considerable personal experience with abotions...let's leave that at that..You keep reading what you want to believe...I choose to know the stuff between the lines you will never get.

You are right Joe, There are no guarantees,but who would want to open a business in the town I live in,with an unemploymnet rate of 12.5%?? So, open a business,can the people afford anything other then rent and food? not here...Also,my x boss that runs a small business said the payroll tax on her staff making over the 8.00 an hour min wage was killing her!! and I made 11.00 dollars and hour ,it got me laid off and replaced with a women from the welfare (CALWORKS) See the x boss gets an even bigger tax cut for hiring walfare recipents..Oh and I found out shes 40 years old and this is her first job.. She also gets to keep part of her welafe check abd she gets a paycheck.. Is this the 47% romney was talking about?as for Romeny and his money I dont care.... The 47% which I guess thats me now, was made under Obama.. We cant just keep blaming rthe rich (quote) There will always be poor people,but look at all the good you got (jesus) Thank You Joe, I do appreciate your opinion..

Are you serious? So, lets judge Romeny on his faith?? What is Obamas Faith?? Do your research. Beth got so can you.....

Obama does nothing but lie. The man is a fake and being a member/associated with the Rev. Wright that would be something very wrong here to me.

Mormon Faith is scary,but to me,the main objective in any religion is care about each other. different branches one tree.. I dont agree with Romneys faith at all!! What I have to look at, is who Romney or Obama can help our economy. Its rather sad,because both men do have good ideas It comes down to is they can talk,the talk but who can walk the walk.. What I would love to say to both these great minds is, Look to your left and there is your brother,look to your right and there is your brother. I dont want to be like the middle east where there is war over religion.. Thank You Monica..

Stephanie, Sorry, but it really sounds like you are makng up the fact that you know anything at all about the Mormon's. The shortest sentence to describe them is that they simply feel Joseph Smith was visited by Mormon the Angel to share more recent, updated, info to add to what's in The Bible, which the Mormons mainly live by and they feel they have the burden of preparing the world for the end of times.(long sentence)

Carlos, I looked into Romneys record in Massachusetts. And If I where him I would be ashamed,and he is not gooing to win that state,because of it. We also have to look at Obamas record. Nether one is perfic. The difference that I do see,is Romney dont have to have everything his way. You have to give and take. For now I have to look at the economy. I just dont feel Obama knows what to do in that area. I dont think its a matter of him not caring, he does.. I voted for him in o8, but I have 25weeks left on unemployment, I do live in CA where this state takes EXELLENT care of its poor, And most of the welfare and free childcare that you can get the red guys agreed to. So both sides have there good points and bad.. What it comes down to again we know What Obama will do we have seen it for for years. What we dont know is if Romney does win what will he be like? its about taking chances and the not knowing. Like I said before they can talk the talk but who can walk the walk.. thanks carolos...

The link you provided is the view of a democrat which is hardly evidence, here's a true video of Mr. Romney's interview http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8Yvp8lQpxDU#!

Here's another video on Opening Speech of 2002 Olympic by Mr. Romney; http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=S8Yp9SVSWJU&feature=endscreen

You think the chocolate jesus comment is racist? It is within the limits of what people should be kk with...you are just trying to call the race card for nothing. Have no doubt....Obama winning and most of his black supporters voting for him simply because he is black defined Obama as a racist canidate long ago....don't blame Cleawater Girl for it. Your the one who is pathetic...not her. Clearwater girl has a good head on her shoulders ...she knows the deal. I promise you..if Obama wins again...even teh blacks will hate him once they realize what he has ..and is doing. Just everyone wait until they figure out we can't rely on our jobs givng us health insurance any longer. All the workplace is going to end up doing is supplying the paperwork for us to fiil out for Obama care...and handle the deductions out of our paychecks. Many, if not most , employers will barely cover just the employee noe days....the spouse and kids are going to be SOL. Even ''3'' years ago more companies paid most of the insurance for the employee and the spouse and kids. Not so much anymore. Just think of how it will be to be a yound family with health care they can't afford. Just wait. You dem morons are so stupid.